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Tuesday, June 26, 2018

Prince George Descent from Royal/Noble Houses - Oldenburg

The descent of Prince George thru some noble and royal houses are sometimes innumerable, but what I will try is to trace the shortest possible descent from the earliest known progenitor of that house and the patrilineal descent thru the nearest ancestor of Prince George (say how he descends from the house of Wettin thru QEII, his great grandmother). I tried to list them as I came across some genealogical sites (such as Roglo and Leo).


Our first stop is from the royal House of Oldenburg since Prince George descend patrilineally from this house, currently this house is sitting on the throne of Denmark & Norway, consort to QEII and in the future will be King of UK (thru Prince Charles, William and George). Officially the current royal family of UK belongs to the House of Windsor but patrilineally the Queen is from the House of Wettin, but her descendants belongs to Oldenburg thru Prince Philip.


Prince George descends in 28 generations from Egilmar I (1040-1112), the first confirmed ancestor of Oldenburg, as below.


This is the shortest I can trace (this is from Roglo).
1Egilmar I, Graf im Lerigau
2Egilmar II im Lerigau +1108/
3Christian I von Oldenburg, Graf im Lerigau +1142/1145
4Christian I, Graf von Oldenburg +1167/
5Moritz I, Graf von Oldenburg +/1209
6Kunigunde von Oldenburg +1264/
7Wilhelm von Bronckhorst, Herr von Reckheim +1290/
8Hedwige von Bronckhorst ca 1270-1310
9Gerhard III von Holstein, Herzog von Schleswig 1292-1340
10Heinrich II, Graf von Holstein 1317-1384/1389
11Gerhard VI von Holstein, Herzog von Schleswig ca 1370-1404
12Hedwige von Holstein 1395-ca 1436
13Christian I von Oldenburg, konge af Danmark 1426-1481
14Frederik I von Oldenburg, konge af Danmark 1471-1533
15Adolf, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp 1526-1586
16Sophie von Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp, Prinzessin von Holstein-Gottorp 1569-1634
17Adolf Friedrich I, Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin 1588-1658
18Adolf Friedrich, Herzog von Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1658-1708
19Karl, Herzog von Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1708-1752
20Charlotte, Herzogin von Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1744-1818
21Adolphus von Hannover, Duke of Cambridge 1774-1850
22Mary Adelaide, Prinzessin von Hannover 1833-1897
23Mary Cambridge, Prinzessin von Teck 1867-1953
24George VI Windsor, King of Great Britain and Northern Ireland 1895-1952
25Elizabeth II Windsor, Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland 1926-
26Charles Mountbatten-Windsor, Prince of Wales 1948-
27William Mountbatten-Windsor, Duke of Cambridge 1982-
28 George Mountbatten-Windsor, Prince of Great Britain 2013-


From Leo it takes only 27 generations to reach Prince George, some discrepancy on father of Maurice/Moritz.
1Egilmar I, Graf im Lerigau
2Egilmar II, Graf im Lerigau
3Christian I, Graf von Oldenburg in Oldenburg
4Moritz, Graf von Oldenburg
5Kunigunde von Oldenburg
6Wilhelm von Bronckhorst, Herr zu Reckheim
7Heilwig von Bronckhorst
8Gerhard III 'der Grosse', Graf von Holstein, Duke of Schleswig
9Heinrich II 'der Eiserne', Graf von Holstein
10Gerhard VI, Graf von Holstein, Duke von Schleswig
11Heilwig, Gräfin von Holstein
12Christian I, King of Denmark 1448-1481, Norway 1449-1481
13Frederik I, King of Denmark and Norway 1523-1533
14Adolf, Duke of Holstein-Gottorp 1544-1586
15Sophie, Prinzessin von Holstein-Gottorp
16Adolf Friedrich I, Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin
17Adolf Friedrich II, Herzog von Mecklenburg-Strelitz 1701-1708
18Karl, Herzog von Mecklenburg-Strelitz
19Charlotte Sophie, Herzogin von Mecklenburg-Strelitz
20Prince Adolphus of Great Britain and Ireland, 1st Duke of Cambridge
21Princess Mary Adelaide of Cambridge, Princess of Great Britain and Ireland
22Mary, Princess of Teck
23George VI, King of Great Britain and Ireland 1936-1952
24Elizabeth II, Queen of Great Britain and N-Ireland 1952-
25Charles, Prince of Wales
26Prince William of Great Britain and N-Ireland, Duke of Cambridge
27Prince George of Cambridge, Prince of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


Patrilineally though Prince George descends from Egilmar in 30 generations (from Roglo), while in 29 generations from Leo's list.


This list is from Roglo.
1 Egilmar I, Graf im Lerigau
2 Egilmar II im Lerigau +1108/
3 Christian I von Oldenburg, Graf im Lerigau +1142/1145
4 Christian I, Graf von Oldenburg +1167/
5 Moritz I, Graf von Oldenburg +/1209
6 Christian III, Graf von Oldenburg +1233/
7 Johann I, Graf von Oldenburg /1270
8 Christian IV, Graf von Oldenburg +/1287
9 Johann II von Oldenburg, Graf von Oldenburg-Oldenburg ca 1272-/1316
10 Konrad I, Graf von Oldenburg +1350
11 Christian XI von Oldenburg, Graf von Oldenburg-Welsburg ca 1340-1399/1403
12 Dietrich der Glückliche, Graf von Oldenburg 1380-1440
13 Christian I von Oldenburg, konge af Danmark 1426-1481
14 Frederik I von Oldenburg, konge af Danmark 1471-1533
15 Christian III von Oldenburg, konge af Danmark 1503-1559
16 Johann, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg 1545-1622
17 Alexander, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg 1573-1627
18 August Philipp, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1612-1675
19 Friedrich Ludwig, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1653-1728
20 Peter August, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1697-1775
21 Karl Anton August, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1727-1759
22 Friedrich, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1757-1816
23 Wilhelm, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1785-1831
24 Christian IX von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, konge af Danmark 1818-1906
25 George I von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, roi des Hellènes 1845-1913
26 Andrew von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, prince de Grèce 1882-1944
27 Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh 1921-
28 Charles Mountbatten-Windsor, Prince of Wales 1948-
29 William Mountbatten-Windsor, Duke of Cambridge 1982-
30 George Mountbatten-Windsor, Prince of Great Britain 2013-

This list is from Leo.
1Egilmar I, Graf im Lerigau
2Egilmar II, Graf im Lerigau
3Christian I, Graf von Oldenburg in Oldenburg
4Moritz, Graf von Oldenburg
5Christian II, Graf von Oldenburg in Oldenburg
6Johann I, Graf von Oldenburg, Delmenhorst
7Christian III, Graf von Oldenburg
8Johann II, Graf von Oldenburg
9Konrad I, Graf von Oldenburg
10Christian V, Graf von Oldenburg
11Dietrich II 'the Fortunate', Graf von Oldenburg, Graf von Delmenhorst
12Christian I, King of Denmark 1448-1481, Norway 1449-1481
13Frederik I, King of Denmark and Norway 1523-1533
14Christian III, King of Denmark and Norway 1534-1559
15Johann, Herzog von Holstein-Sonderburg-Plön 1564-1622
16Alexander, Herzog von Holstein-Sonderburg 1622-1627
17August Philipp, Herzog von Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck
18Friedrich Ludwig, Duke of Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1719-1728
19Peter August, Herzog von Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck 1774-1775
20Carl Anton, Prinz zu Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck
21Friedrich, Herzog von Holstein Sonderburg-Beck 1775-1816
22Wilhelm, Herzog von Schleswig-Holstein Sonderburg-Glücksburg
23Christian IX, King of Denmark 1863-1906
24Georgios I, King of the Hellenes 1863-1913, Prince of Denmark
25Andrea, Prince of Greece and Denmark
26Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
27Charles, Prince of Wales
28Prince William of Great Britain and N-Ireland, Duke of Cambridge
29Prince George of Cambridge, Prince of Great Britain and Northern Ireland


According to Roglo site, Prince George relationship with Egilmar II (son of Egilmar I) can be traced in 141,137 ways.


Bayeee!!!

Wednesday, February 28, 2018

UK - The Queen & Her Consort

Queen Elizabeth II's patrilineal descent is from the House of Wettin, while her husband Prince Philip is from the House of Oldenburg. The earliest connection between these two houses is when in 1478 Christine, Herzogin von Sachsen (b. 1461) of Wettin married Hans, King of Denmark and Norway (b. 1455) of Oldenburg. Both of them (the queen & the prince) descended from this marriage but the queen has a shorter descent in 14 generations while it's 15 for the Prince.
Below are their descent thru Christine & King Hans.
14 generation descent of QEII.

15 generation descent of Prince Philip.

Their nearest common ancestors are Christian IX, King of Denmark 1863-1906 and Luise, Prinzessin von Hessen-Kassel. The Queen is a great-great-granddaughter of King Christian, while the Prince is a great-grandson of the King. Below are their descent.


From Queen Victoria & Prince Albert, they are 3rd cousins the queen being a great-grand daughter of King Edward who is a brother to Princess Alice who is the great grand mother of Prince Philip. Below are their descent from Queen Victoria (from the House of Welf/Este) & Prince Albert (from the House of Wettin).


In 9 generations both The Queen and The Prince descends from John William Friso, who is by the words of Wikipedia "John William Friso and his wife are the most recent common ancestors to all currently reigning European monarchs. This is a distinction he has held since 1938, when Franz Joseph II -a descendant of John William Friso, succeeded Franz I - who was not a descendant, as Prince of Liechtenstein". Below are their descent from JWF.
Bayeee!!!

Monday, February 26, 2018

The House of Wittelsbach

Members of the family reigned as Dukes, Electors and Kings of Bavaria (1180–1918), Counts Palatine of the Rhine (1214–1803 and 1816–1918), Margraves of Brandenburg (1323–1373), Counts of Holland, Hainaut and Zeeland (1345–1432), Elector-Archbishops of Cologne (1583–1761), Dukes of Jülich and Berg (1614–1794/1806), Kings of Sweden (1441–1448 and 1654–1720) and Dukes of Bremen-Verden (1654–1719).


The family also provided two Holy Roman Emperors (1328–1347/1742–1745), one King of the Romans (1400–1410), two Anti-Kings of Bohemia (1619–20/1742–43), one King of Hungary (1305–1309), one King of Denmark and Norway (1440–1447) and one King of Greece (1832–1862).
- from Wikipedia


The first member of this family that married into a direct descendant of Charlemagne is Otto II, Pfalzgraf von Bayern who married Heilika von Lengenfeld which can be traced the descend as below :


  1. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire 800-814 - Hildegardis
  2. Pippin I (Karlmann), King of Italy 781-810 - (Bertha?)
  3. Bernhard I, King of Italy 813-817 - Kunigund
  4. Pippin, Comte de Senlis, Peronne and St.Quintin - NN (unnamed wife)
  5. Heribert I, Comte de Vermandois - Bertha de Morvois
  6. Heribert II, Comte de Meaux, Soissons et Vermandois - Adela|Liegarde|Hildebrante of Neustria
  7. Liutgarde|Ledgard de Vermandois - Thibaut I 'the Deceiver', Comte de Blois et Chartres
  8. Emma de Blois - Guillaume II-IV 'Fier à bras', Duc d'Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou
  9. Guillaume III-V 'le Grand', Duc d'Aquitaine 996-1030, Comte de Poitou - Agnes de Bourgogne
  10. Agnès de Poitou - Heinrich III, Holy Roman Emperor (1046-1056)
  11. Heinrich IV, Holy Roman Emperor (1084-1106) - Berta de Savoie
  12. Agnes von Franken - Friedrich I, Herzog von Schwaben 1079-1105
  13. Heilika|Hadewig von Staufen - Friedrich III von Pettendorf, Herr von Hopfenhohe-Pettendorf-Lengenfeld
  14. Heilika von Lengenfeld - Otto II, Pfalzgraf von Bayern
This royal house had been title holder of :
  • Holy Roman Emperor
  • King of the Romans
  • King of Denmark
  • King of Sweden
  • King of Norway
  • King of Greece
  • King of Bavaria
  • Duke of Bavaria
  • Elector of Bavaria
  • Elector of the Palatinate
  • Elector of Cologne
Bayeee!!!